The BackGrounder

(from a DC blk gay Yahoo  Group):

Backgrounder:  A local DC brother, Moe, has  been throwing 'sex parties' for
a number of years and even resorts to guerilla  tactics to discredit competing
parties by calling the police on them so guys  will come to his alone. Moe
has gotten into 'fetish parties' (leather, drag,  etc) and most recently got
arrested by the DC police. A debate has started on  why this guy is still
throwing sex parties, his responsibility to the DC blk gay  community, the spread of
STDs, and his nasty treatment of other party  crews.  So, his arrest has
sparked a hot debate among the DC blk gay social  scene.

Some of the responses:

WTF...Who keeps letting this shyt come  through...considering the so-called
party man was arrested thursday night down  on the stroll at 5th &
k.....lol...I knew it would only be a matter of  time....

moe use to be good but since he started wearing dresses  and doing drag show
he not doing anything.

Oh no, say it aint say?  Who is this notorious Moe  and what are the
notorious Moe Parties?  Don't know who he is...never been  to one of his parties but
the way some talk...sounds like its best that  way.....


LOL... he a drag queen that puts on sex parties?! That  is off the hook!
J


from what i can gather he was the only one in dc to  give sex party and it
became a staple but then his tude and his deamor to folks  really turned alot
folks away, he can be down right shitty if i can say that to  folks and then
want them to come to his house for a party.

from sources i talk to he would call polices on someone  else party and turn
them in just to not have anyone up against him far as  parties.

he diss the glory hole but always down there hanging  around.


I don't know muchh about what goes on in MOE'S house,  but if we are not sure
about what he does or what goes on,  We should be  the last person to throw
stones.  Pretty much all of us lives in glass  houses. Lord knows I really
don't want anyone to throw stones @ my house.   So in other words. we should not
be talking about anyone.  Just my  thoughts.

yeah,,,its true he was arrested...yeah its best that  way tht you stay
away.......




if he was arrested on thursday, why would you put his  business out there
like that?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!   that sounds like some  faggitiy bullshyt.

me too!  and u wonder why we can't get no where as  a people!

Sounds like competition in the men's  party business is
ruthless. There must be plenty money at stake.

Dam it got real hot on here for a min, I see Moe has  gone national.  Let me
say, I have never been to one of his parties, and  never will,  but I am very
aware of what goes on there.........Talking  about throwing stones? The CDC
came out recently and said that there has been  a steady increases in new HIV
cases within Black communities and an  increase in antibiotic resistant diseases
among guys who frequent sex parties.  There is one party in NY where the guy
puts a disclaimer on is web site to alert  people to this, well then we need
to be talking about stuff like  this.


Yes there is the element of personal  responsibility on the part of the would
be patrons but what abot these  predatory hosts who sit there and profit off
of mens weaknesses and desires for  sex.

Moe or whoever can do what ever they like in the  privacy of their homes but
doent these guys feel any sense of   responsibility to the community, I wonder
how many friends he has who have  died of AIDS or who is suffering from the
disease. To those guys  supporting Moe and the other parties, Do U have any
friends clinging to  life because of people like Moe?........ And I say again
these guys do have  a responsibility to themselves but U cannot overlook the part
this sex  parties play in destroying our community.


    

I can't believe some people are surprised  about a sex party going on - like
they never knew shit like that happens.  This is the internet and when that
man hit "send" he could basically say  whatever he wants about anybody. All of a
sudden people want ty come to  the defense of someone they don't know. That's
bullshit - this is America  where you can dayum near say, write and do what
you want to do. If the man  was arrested then it's a matter of public record
anyway. If he wasn't  arrested then the person that brought that info to the
table will be  dealt with - no need for us to think he is being any less or more  
"faggety" than any other time. Calm down fellas and just read - if it  don't
affect you then don't worry about it.

CW

You are talking about the party.   those parties are no different than you
taking home a new guy ever darn  weekend.   also to the parties. you can treat
them as any other  business, if it is a store that you do not want to shop in,
Then  don't go there.   So boycott the parties.  Yes,  you can say that the
parties may play a large role in the spread of HIV..  But you know something
else.  we play a large role in it  too.. Why?  because a large number of guys
that is postive, does not  express to the other person that he is +.  So they
care on as if  they both are  -.

More responses to the  Debate:

dont need to do a camera or investigative  report.

i heard first hand from folks up in there, he does  supply condoms but most
dont want to use them, and i feel we shouldn't blame him  for provide a space
for dude to have sex in there, it's on the person who go  there to use
protection or not.

i get upset when folks want to blame someone else for  they mistake when you
going to point the finger at you and say hey i messed up,  just my opinion and
not calling anyone out if you feel so hit me up on the side  and we can
discuss it.

nevertheless his clients are mostly college students  and queens, yeah i said
it queens, some dudes in there but the rest are just  what i said.

kind funny he put up there no fats and fems but dayum  that is all that in
there.



yeah its plenty of money, also it's a place lot of  married dudes can go and
get sex and not worry if they get caught.

back int he day there was sex parties but not for money  it was free and it
was about that one thing not how it is now with the class and  restriction on
the door.

i was school in that by my Pops who told me everything  and let me know the
real deal in this business.

the party get really ruthless around the show(prides)  everyone giving one
and want that money.

hell you can give one for big boys and make like good  200 over the weekend
cuz big boys dont get that much love.

also the parties are way better then the club due to  you came to a sex party
and you know what it's about not the need for the  games.





I dont know what it is like to take some one home every  week end but I do
think having sex in a group in some "snake like mating  fashion" is very
different from having sex with one person at any one  time
I dont think anyone has a  responsibility to share their health status with
anyone before  intimacy.  The only responsibility anyone has to the other
during  intimacy is to protect the other person by observing safe sex  practices.
Safe sex should be a given anyway..........
I do not go to these parties so in a way I am  boycotting them.  I speak out
against them when the opportunity arises too  so in a way, I am boycotting
them.
I think our communities silence on these parties gives  the impression that
this is an acceptable lifestyle and they are actually  destroying our community.

i have heard and believe me you have a better chance to  get up in there then
me,

i have heard these things from his S/O who is a friend  of mines, why i can
come and say bad and say good.

but my beef with moe is his tude towards folks and how  he talk to people and
when someone help him out he want to piss off over which  he done to me.

i'm not here to slander him or say bad things i just  tell the truth, if that
being shady then let it be, but i was raise to tell the  truth and say what i
feel. not to kiss anyone butt.

i like what you said and can agree with that as well  Culokn4m.

at a time i was mad at him for turning me away but then  coming at me and
asking me to help him out i had to get on his about, but when i  found out the
real dirty one day from someone who was at show and told me he  dress up yeah i
ran with it and got my revenge.

yet now i'm in a different place, but i will tell the  facts from fiction.